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Chidambaram Election Candidate, Thirumavalavan-A Letter from Meena Kandasamy

I normally never write about politics in my blog. Because, I am far more interested about issues than about the people who are fighting for/against something. I am not the member of any political party. I doubt if I will ever join a party in this lifetime. I like the autonomy of being a writer. Actually, this is the easy route to take in life: very few people can betray a writer, but a politician is consistently at risk of betrayal. Sorry for this haphazard introduction.

In the past few months, on more than a couple of occasions, I have wanted to write about the political scene in Tamil Nadu. But I have resisted because I didn’t want to write anything too soon. To write is to commit oneself. To write is to take sides. When I find every side equally miserable, there’s nothing that can be written. So, I kept myself busy with other regular, day-to-day stuff.

But when I went to orkut.com and saw the kind of abuses that were heaped on Thirumavalavan for continuing ties with the DMK, I wanted to give some explanations there. At least, I wanted to tell people that Congress is the enemy, okay, Karunanidhi is the enemy, but what has Thirumaa done against the Tamils? Why have the Tamils suddenly stopped bashing Rajapaske-Fonseka-Sonia-Karunanidhi and instead chosen to attack Thiruma (who is a non-player as far as India’s external affairs policy is concerned)? Was I finding some casteist strain there? Or, was I jumping to conclusions? The worst label that one could cast on the VCK leader could have been “opportunist”, but the kind of criticism that he seemed to attract was a million times more. I knew that I couldn’t waste my time, replying to forums on orkut.com. Then, my friends started mailing me from all over the world. What do you feel about his stand? What do you say about this? He was the light of our eyes, our only hope, why has he remained with the DMK? I could have wrote back individual replies to each of them, but I didn’t. In fact, I was not in a position to give any clarification myself.

I have known him since 2003, and that’s a really long time. Not only have I translated two of his books, but I have also taken part in several of his party’s protests on the Eelam Tamils issue. I was there when he launched his fast unto death on Pongal day. I went everyday to the venue 55km away from where I live. I was there when he concluded the fast, under pressure from emotional party cadre and Dr.Ramadoss. When I saw him sit there cheerfully, energetically, happily all those days, I was so happy. He would address the thousands of cadres at least once every three hours. Every second we watched him, we knew he was pushing himself, we knew he was dying in slow motion. That didn’t matter at that time. What mattered was, everyone, everywhere started speaking about it. I would be so happy at the venue of the fast, but I would come home and cry in bed. It was sad to see that he had to do this to himself.

A little later, a lot of other tragedies began to unfold. Muthukumar’s immolation was one such thing. I did the English translation of his statement late into the night. It is the version that’s carried on all the websites. I think I nearly lost myself as I read through those words he had written. After I translated every single word, I would cry because Muthukumar knew that he would die. Yet he wrote such powerfully reasoned arguments, such emotional appeals. He didn’t believe in the power of his pen alone. He knew he had to die in order to prove a point. I had blogged about my visit to his funeral. What I didn’t blog about was that the morning after I finished the translation, I got into an auto to go to the university to teach. I saw the rearview mirror and said “Hi”. I thought I was saying that to my sis who sat next to me. No, I was saying Hi to myself. I couldn’t recognize my own face in the mirror for a few seconds. That’s how totally devastated and disoriented I was. When I learnt from the newspapers that the only two names on the dying Muthukumar’s lips were Prabhakaran and Thirumavalavan, my respect for Thiruma increased. So, when it was finally known that he would continue in the DMK alliance, of which the Congress was a part, I really didn’t know how to react. Was in no mood to talk to my friends in the VCK. Anything that anyone said, seemed like an excuse. But over time, I learnt a bit of the background.

We will understand about the VCK’s position if we look at the only three options available to the party: 1) join the ADMK alliance; 2) contest independently or forge a new alliance; or 3) continue in the present alliance.

FIRST SCENARIO: The AIADMK is as opposed to the LTTE and to Tamil self-determination as the Congress party. Therefore, in an ideological angle, there is no difference to be made if the VCK joins this alliance. Okay, let us assume that right now it is imperative to defeat DMK and the Congress, therefore the VCK should go to this alliance. How can the VCK join this alliance? There’s the first possibility: the ADMK/allies should have given him an invitation. But is that what the news-reports suggest? No, there was no official invite, or even ‘feelers’ to the VCK. What’s the second possibility? The VCK leader goes to Jayalalitha and asks her to take him back. Given the fact that Thirumavalavan walked out of this alliance since his party cadre were insulted by the AIADMK, it is unlikely. But even granted the VCK leader was willing to lose his self-respect and jump over to that alliance, would Jayalalitha have accomodated the VCK? She had made it very clear (through the press) that the VCK was unwelcome to her alliance. There was a news-item to this effect on Page 1 of Deccan Chronicle. When she herself rules out the possibility of accomodating the VCK, should the VCK be blamed for not joining her alliance?

SECOND SCENARIO: Thirumavalavan could have contested independently in Chidambaram. He’s done that twice in the past: 1999 and 2004 and won about 2.5 lakh votes both times. But he didn’t win. Personally, he’s hasn’t been an MP for the past ten years and it hasn’t affected him. But what about the party? Should Tamil Nadu’s largest Dalit party not have any representatives in Parliament? I believe that much of the party’s growth has to take place in its initial years and under Thirumavalavan’s leadership, only then it will become a force to reckon with in the years to come. Should the opportunity to go to be Parliament be foregone? Should he face the elections alone again? Okay, let us acknowledge that Chidambaram is just one constituency. How will the VCK work in the other constituencies? Is it possible for a single party (especially a party that runs on the support of the working class people) to come up with so much of resources to work in all the 40 constituencies. That sort of thing is possible for Vijayakanth, but is a financial impossibility for the VCK. Even if he takes up the challenge, can Thirumavalavan guarantee the safety of his cadres and VCK members? What happened on the two previous occasions when he contested independently in Chidambaram. 25,000 huts were burnt. 400 Dalit settlements were prevented from coming to the polling booth, several young men died or lost their limbs. Who will stand by the VCK when casteist violence runs riot?

There’s another possibility: Thiruma didn’t contest the elections at all. As a personal decision, it shouldn’t have been difficult for him. But what happens to his cadre? Whom will he ask all of them to vote for? By not going to the Parliament, what is the purpose that he will serve? Isn’t it better for a pro-Eelam force to be elected to Parliament?

So, what else could have been the alternative: He should have forged another alliance that did not have the DMK, the ADMK, or the Congress. At 47, even if Thirumavalavan is totally capable to lead such a front, will that be accepted by others? Definitely not. So, such a third front should have been led by either Vaiko or Ramadoss. In January, before he embarked on his indefinite fast he undertook steps to forge such an alliance. Did it materialize? No, it did not. Vaiko was unwilling to move away from ADMK. Ramadoss did not want to forge a new alliance because it meant that his son could no longer be the health minister. (Let us remember that Ramadoss quit the Health Minister’s job for poll prospects and not for the Eelam Tamils issue). Ramadoss, with a larger party strength than Vaiko, should have led such an alliance. But, how reliable is he? On March 28, the PMK releases its manifesto and the Eelam Tamils issue stands at No. 38 (there’s only one more issue below that). On April 11 he says Eelam Tamils issue is his poll plank. That’s how he is. Forget his reliability. Did he come forward to lead such an alliance? No. Ramadoss insisted everytime that Karunanidhi should snap ties with the Congress. And Karunanidhi was unwilling to do that because politics is just a numbers game (PMK+CONGRESS+ADMK = majority in TN assembly) and he realized that if he snapped ties with the Congress, he would lose his government and also the chance to get relected since there would be no elections as an alternate government would have been formed. The Communists at least should have taken this initative–they were instead keen on ‘working on’ Jayalalitha and getting her to come up with some tokenism: cancelling birthday celebrations, one-day fast, and so on. Consequently, there was no alternative front in Tamil Nadu forged solely for the Eelam cause.

THIRD SCENARIO: He’s continuing in the present alliance with the DMK. The DMK did not send him out despite the protestations of the Congress. Even the Congress had to climb down from its earlier stance. And just because he is in this front, he has not sold out his conscience or his ideology. He will always be a staunch supporter of the Tigers. He will always demand Eelam. His party’s manifesto gives primary importance to Eelam. He seeks the deproscription of the Tigers and the recognition of Tamil Eelam. He says he will press for a change in India’s external affairs policy.

Just as Vaiko’s pro-TIger stand has never been watered down because he is with Jayalalitha, I am sure Thiruma’s pro-Tiger stand will be intact irrespective of his alliance with the DMK-Congress. What he has done is not opportunism. This is the only option that was available to him.

I have thought about this long and hard. I see that there is nothing else that Thiruma could have done in these circumstances. What I have written above is just my personal opinion. Even party members might not agree with all that I have said. I wanted to share this with friends of mine who wrote to me about the VCK.

by Meena Kandasamy

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  1. Tamil SASI says:

    Just as Vaiko’s pro-TIger stand has never been watered down because he is with Jayalalitha, I am sure Thiruma’s pro-Tiger stand will be intact irrespective of his alliance with the DMK-Congress. What he has done is not opportunism. This is the only option that was available to him.

    *********

    This is exactly my thought. He could not have done anything different.

    But… his recent statements about Alliance Dharma and Campaigning for Congress were disappointing. That’s what turned many people against Thiruma. Not his Alliance itself. When people desperately want Congress to be defeated and when Sections within the congress were against Thiruma, he should not have made such statements. This has compromised his earlier position.

    In politics rather than being driven by momentary motions you have to be shrewd. Unfortunately both Thiruma and Vaiko don’t posses that quality. I can only hope that Thiruma will not become another Vaiko

  2. Ronin says:

    If we have notice Vaiko’s politics closely,we can see he is conflicted between personal ambitions/equations and principles. That is a very bad cocktail mix sure to give hangover!

    You can’t be a Periyar and MK at the same time. Periyar or Gandhi or Ambedkar cared less about their growth and more about their principles.

    If JJ calls him brother, he will forget principles. If MK calls him brother he will forget principles. Vaiko and JJ combination is together not in principles but common enmity.

    Thiruma has not been keen to stay in power. And so far has sacrificed more for his Dalit cause by hanging on to his Eelam card. I dont see any Dalit leader in India with such steadfast principles and lack of interest in power..

  3. Velu Balendran says:

    My initial reaction (as a Eelam Tamil) was that Thiruma was making a mistake. But when he queried what is the guarantee that AIDMK will not join/support Congress I see he has a serious point.

    • Rajendra Prasad says:

      I am agreeing with your comment. But why not VCK face elections in any four chosen constituency alone? What whould happen if it is like this?.
      However as a Tamil (now at USA), I strongly support Thiruma. Thiruma never do anything against Tamil. My prayer now is at least he should win in Chidhambaram Constituency.

      Rajendra Prasad

  4. Velu, you are right. That was an important, pivotal point that I missed thinking about. But logically, what’s the proof that the ADMK, or even the PMK is not going to join a Congress-led Government. So, in a way, a vote against the Congress can also become a vote that later helps the Congress government.

    As regards, Tamil SASI’s statements about alliance dharma and Congress victory, all of us know that they are just statements. I seriously consider that a sound-bite. Nobody is going to forgive Congress at this point in Tamil Nadu. If at all the Congress is going to win some pockets in Tamil Nadu (say, Sivaganga) it is not because VCK has temporarily endorsed the candidate but because the Congress will be relying on its spending power.

    • Kumar says:

      Meena,

      I am sure you read mainstream magazines from TN. What do you think of the survey by Kumudam (jeyikkappovadhu yaru?) that says the eelam issue does not figure as an election issue and only a portion of the educated male voters is even concerned about it and it doesn’t figure at all amongst the women voters? Either Kumudam is wrong or you guys are far removed from the reality on the streets.

  5. Nithyananthan says:

    Dear Madame K. Meena: I follow-up the Indian politics. It is because of our interest and curiosity to be aware of what’s happening in our next door. Sometimes, I become speechless and motionless, disgusted and rendered less inspired with depleted morale. Hindus believe that the nine plates won’t face each-other and repel one another, yet I believe that if they ever happen to contest in the Indian elections they will join hands irrespective of their lips-served ideologies – it would be something like demons with angels; evils with righteous and Congress with LTTE and so on. Your write-up on current affairs appears as a justification to rationalize VCK’s decision to continue to swim in the stinking sewer of scavenging Congress / DMK Alliance. I (we) have had a lot respect for Messrs. Thirumavalavan, Vaiko, Ramadoss, Pandian, Thirunavukarasar, Rajah and even Mr. LK Advani and so on; for their voices. In Jaffna, where I live, I witnessed great hope and inflated morale among our people– but it looks now as if I had bid on lame-horses. Eelam Issue didn’t, rank enough, to come into, at least, the first five items in any of these party’s manifestoes. Mr. Valavan couldn’t swim and get across the river when he’s living so long side by side of the same shallow river. Now, how can anyone expect him to swim in the sea of Palk-Straight? Who is going to benefit by this unholy evil Alliance? No one, other than the scavenging Congress – is going to be the biggest beneficiary next to stinking DMK. As a part of such satanic duplicitous efforts, on one hand, Sonia led government of India with her henpecked PM are hell-bent to destroy the aspirations of the Eelam Tamils and their vanguard the LTTE, and on the other, they also want to use the same LTTE for their shameless electioneering advantage. How (01) Using Pranab and Menon to persecute the extermination of Tamils using chemicals poisonous gas and at the same time sending Raul Gandhi to Pondicheri to propagate that though they don’t reconcile with LTTE still they will join hands with supporters of LTTE, in TN – with aim of gaining the vote-bank. (02) Manipulating a fearful and worrisome atmosphere of life-threat by LTTE to influence and draw sympathy of fear-psychoses. Let me conclude by saying that we are a small people of just less than 03million – no comparison is made with Tamil Nadu ‘Thai Nadu”. Yet, there is nothing for us to learn from our so called ‘Mother’; on the contrary, Mother’s politicians have had to learn from our Parliamentarians a veracity of matters in politics and governance – Unselfishness, Dedication, Resolve and Pursuit of Ideology and so more. I am sad to see the same the scavenging Indian Congress Party is trying again to tackle / solve the 60 years of liberation struggle coupled with Genocide, a problem of enormous proportion, by simply assigning a bureaucrat – as they did in 1984 in Bhutan. Firstly, Mr. Menon Shankar will / might be expecting our TNA to address him ‘Sir’; as his predecessor Romesh Bandari wanted. Sonia might be dreaming that she could buy our Parliamentarians – they will never be budged. This is another drama being enacted by Sonia Gandhi to hoodwink the 40% Indian illiterate to return to power. As far as we are concerned this is a futile attempt to dilute world-wide eruption of protest by our Eelam People. We will survive instituting piece with peace. May God bless you!

  6. Meena,

    I still cannot understand why Thol. Thirumavalavan, someone whom I respect greatly because of his pro-Eelam Tamil stance as well as his working for the Dalit cause, had to be in an alliance that has the filthy Congress party as one of its members.

    Karunanidhi has dug his own grave and he deserves it thoroughly. He has become extremely power hungry, unprincipled and has lost all his sense of self-respect. A man who could threaten the hated central government because of simple issues like portfolio allocation had all the power to bring down the filthy UPA by forwarding those resignations. Despite three Assembly resolutions as well as several representations, the bas****s in the Indian establishment continue to support the filthy Rajapaksa scum. If Karunanidhi had any sense of self-respect or pride or concern for the Eelam Tamils he would have brought down the filthy UPA and forged a pro-Tamil alliance with parties like PMK, MDMK, VCK and CPI or maybe even the BJP. Obviously he is more concerned about completing his five year term and promoting family politics. Karunanidhi is going to pay the price for betraying the Tamils of Eelam!

    But why did the principled Thiruma have to join this alliance? I understand the VCK wanting to join an alliance and not go it alone as well as not wanting to be with Jayalalithaa. He could have either gone with Vijayakanth or with the BJP.

  7. Nithyananthan,

    As an Indian Tamil, I feel terribly ashamed that we have elected people like Karunanidhi who has betrayed his people shamelessly just to cling on to power and promote family politics. The people of Tamil Nadu owe every Eelam Tamil an apology for having elected traitors. The DMK’s betrayal stinks to the high heavens 😡

    But the people of Tamil Nadu are no fools. They are boiling with anger at the filthy Congress party and are waiting for election day. Karunanidhi knows this and is desperately trying every trick in the book to fool the people. But the people cannot be fooled. Karunanidhi knows very well that the DMK became a force in TN politics after the scum of the Congress betrayed the Tamils in 1965 and they had to pay the price in the 1967 elections. History is going to repeat itself and ironically, this time its going to be the Congress and the DMK that are going to pay the price!

    The people of Tamil Nadu are completely with their Eelam brethren and the repercussions of their anger are going to be felt in these elections. If the people of other parts of India vote sensibly, the stinking bas****s in this Indian establishment will be forced to pay the price for their utterly evil filthy deeds!

  8. Arun says:

    Dear Friends,

    A leader breaks out, when the people are ready for it. This is what we know from history.

    Lets contemplate what would happen, if PMK, VCK and Vai-ko join to form a seperate front. Will the “tamils” vote them to power with overwhelming majority? Most likely they will come third, in terms of the no. of votes gathered, and not one of them would go to the parliament.

    Whether we like it or not, we have to accept that the tamils of tamilnadu are still divided by their allegiance to a party, caste and many other factors. To bring them to the boiling point of revolting and taking major decisions is a long long way to go. Sadly, Eelam cannot wait for it to happen.

    Thiruma, Ramadoss, Vai-ko have to first survive against the big crocodiles in tamilnadu politics (ADMK, DMK, Congress and even DMDK – which is new but still has the money muscle behind it, along with our tamilars loyalty to him..)

    I humbly request Meena, not to label Thiruma as dalit leader. His stature is larger than that. He is a true tamil leader. But again, are our people ready to rally behind them, even against the police power of the ruling party?

    What happenned to Seeman?..

    I am ashamed to say that i am a tamil, looking at the way the TN tamils are giving up themselves to be manipulated by the political scavengers. The TN media doing doing its part of using the Eelam issue for their circulation and business profit.

    People like MK, JJ, Sonia have very clearly demonstrated that the TN people are fools. If anyone observes their statements and their stance, and still don’t understand this fact, then they represent a typical tamil from TN.

    So, i can only hang my head in shame, in front of our Eelam brothers………..

    Alien Earthling: I dont see a difference between Vijayakanth and MK. In fact, Vijayakanth who announced earlier that he has named his son “Prabhakaran”, recently announced that he will not support any banned organization. By this he has demonstrated, he is the right material to succeed in Indian Politics, an opportunist and political scavenger.

    Apologies, if i have used some strong words, but what else do we call those who take advantage of people’s death for their own benefit… They are worse than scavengers….

    • Arun, that’s true, Vijayakanth is proving to be yet another power hungry crook with no ideology.

      I hope Thiruma stays true to the cause, wherever he is. I don’t blame the Tamil media, because they are at least making the people aware of the heinous genocide in Lanka, unlike the idiots in the world “mainstream media” who don’t have a clue, or like that sewer rat N.Ram, who writes whatever the Rajapaksa swine vomit to him, since he is in the pay of the murderous scum in the Sinhala regime.

  9. Ronin says:

    We can’t trust anyone under leadership of JJ, MK or Sonia to talk of Eelam cause in Loksabha..Their party members are more loyal to the members than to the men who voted for them. And wont speak in parliment. I even doubt PMK as they did not speak about this in LokSabha vehemently. At this time Thiruma and Vaiko are the only ones with courage.

    Arun:

    You are right, this people don’t have the money power to stand alone. we need to do our best to give them the money power to stand against the sand, Tv, alcohol and contract mafias dominating in parties.

    If interested, I request folks to contribute for Thiruma at http://www.vck.in

    Regards,
    Ronin

  10. I am not justifying what Thirumaa did… Justifications are for wrong acts, not for taking the only sane option that is available. I believe the VCK is opposed to the BJP’s policy of fostering communal hate, so such an alliance will never, ever come about.

    A word on the DMDK also. For a long while, Vijayakanth had pipe-dreams of forging an alliance with the Congress. Therefore there was a period in which he never even spoke of the Eelam problem. Besides, an alliance with the DMDK would benefit only the DMK-Congress alliance. Who are the people who will vote for Vijayakanth? The traditional MGR vote-bank (poor, Dalits, villagers, women), right? And whose votes will the DMDK split? Only the votes that should go to the ADMK, and this will indirectly enable the DMK-Congress combine to come to power. I don’t this it would have made sense. And anyway, I don’t think there’s any point discussing this at all. After all, DMDK hasn’t forged any alliance with anyone, so why will have an alliance with VCK? Second, how humiliating will it be for a major party like the VCK to accept the ideologically-rootless DMDK as the lead party in a possible coalition. I don’t see that happening at all.

    Have I called Thirumaa a Dalit leader? Sorry in that case. I have called the VCK a Dalit party, but that was not in a derogatory sense, but in a celebratory sense. Really 🙂

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  12. Ramanan says:

    I have huge respect to Thiruma as a Thamizh leader rather than a Dalit leader. VCk and Thiruma were in a great dilemma but as the future history will show that he bet on the wrong horse. I understand the author’s 3 scenarios but atleast by choosing the 2nd scenario, he would have been a force to reckon with instead of aligning with MK and Congress. But it is now water under the bridge and he is a wise person, I hope once he wins his 2 seats, he can support the ADMK and PMK combination to formulate our thamizh nation’s birth in Thamizh Eazham.

  13. Ramanan N says:

    Thanks for the post Meena.
    This is what the exact situation of VCK.
    Scenario 2 -Its a mistake of Ramdoss,Vaiko and Tha.Pa who failed to form an alternative to Congress-DMK alliance and ADMK alliance.We can condemn Thiruma if he failed to form such an alliance,even though he was already with DMK allaince he use to work with Illangai Tamilar Paathukapu Iyakam which has leaders opposed DMK,for this simple reason Thiruma and VCK had risk of loosing there present alliance and may be left alone during election, but he had taken that risk too for Tamil Eelam.

    I dont know how JAYA become a leader for them (vaiko,Ramdoss) in Tamil Eelam issue…How come CPI/CPM had alliance with JAYA who forced law against Govt/Pvt Employees….I dont how Vaiko and JAYA sync in Eelam issue..Ramdoss too..

    So the law of election alliance with minimum sync can be acceptable only for these leaders why not Thiruma..I will never agree with the words that ADMK is an alternative for DMK-Congress in Eelam Issue

  14. Nithyananthan says:

    Today, is supposed to be one of the most festive days in the calendar of ‘Gallant Tamil Race’ – the ‘New Year’; for the Tamil people in general as well as for our Sinhalese brethren. As far as, we are concerned the new year has more ‘Traditional & Cultural’ significance than attributing to the ‘Religious’ importance. I am sure of that the Eelam Tamils won’t celebrate, if not observing it within four walls with a mark of silence – because there’s nothing to celebrate rather performing ritual alms giving for the dead. Still, I am obliged to say a few words of appreciation to Thambi / An’na Mr. An Alien Earthling, for his understanding and conciliatory comforting words, Thank you very much, Sir! We need more people like you to give us sincere moral support – not the rhetoric lip-served thundering by the politicians. We know very well the sentiments that emanate from the placental attachment of our people in TN and their support for our redemption; yet the worrisome factor is that there are chances for them to be carried away by the unscrupulous politicians.
    On this day, as a citizen of Eelam, I am proud to say to all that the LTTE, Honourable Leader Mr. Prabaharan, has already abolished and liberated the women from the dowry system and male supremacy; and the so called under-class / privileged people from monstrous caste system in Eelam; such liberation is evident in the display of togetherness in mass demonstrations being held around world. Having said so, I am sad to see political parties in TN are formed and named after the some castes to keep them alive. May God Almighty bless Righteousness for all!

    • Brother Nithyananthan,

      I greatly admire the spirit and courage of the Tamils of Eelam. Without any outside help, outnumbered almost 9-to-1, they have been carrying on their just and righteous struggle for self-determination and liberation from the heinous crimes of the murderous Sinhala state. And in the process, they have abolished primitive practices like the filthy caste system and the oppression of women. Now, even as all the barbaric world powers and the bloodthirsty swine in the Indian establishment are actively collaborating with the Rajapaksa scum in the genocide, your spirit and courage cannot be broken down. That’s because a just and righteous cause can never be crushed by any damned power in the world!

      Every decent Tamil supports your just cause because this is not just a Tamil issue, it is a humanitarian one. But sadly, it’s true that many TN Tamils are fools – they are concerned more about watching Kollywood movies and dance programs/serials on TV. And shamefully, a few (like that sewer rat N.Ram and his cronies in The Hindu) whose hearts are made of filthy faecal matter fully support the stinking bas****s in the Indian establishment as they go about committing their heinous crimes against humanity. Some day or the other, these stinking sewer rats, along with the Rajapaksa bas****s will have to pay for their evil deeds!

  15. Ronin says:

    A small good news:
    VCKs candidate for Vilupuram Velayudham has been changed. LuckyLook wrote an article about Velayudham based on his knowledge growing up in a constituency, Velayudham worked on. Aspersions were raised on the wealth and wealth making ways of Velayudham. It was clear that Thiruma had chosen him for his financial strength. Also newspapers wrote articles abt it. Velayudham until recently working with ADMK.

    Now I read that he has been changed. This is good news. When you have only two MPs, it is better to have ethical and qualified men.

  16. me1084 says:

    Justifications are for wrong acts, not for taking the only sane option that is available.

    Long long ago, not so long ago, VCK was boycotting elections taking a stand on the whole system. Probably nobody remembers that now. Neither Election boycott is new to VCK nor it was an insane option once. But now the only sane option seems to be within the limits of electoral democracy.

    Pls note, It is not this party/that party,this govt/that govt, but the INDIAN STATE is with SRILANKAN GOVERNMENT and STATE. STATE is the ruling class in its entirety and the interests of ruling class once led them to train militant movements and now to denounce and actively support the other.

    if it sounds too theoretical, pls remember even during the NDA rule, Tigers were openly threatened by the INDIAN STATE to leave the Yarl fort or to face the consequences.So, Even “ideologically-rootless DMDK” was atleast giving a token call to boycott the elections on Eelam issue some time back, Why can’t ‘ideologically outstanding’ Tiruma do that?

    Ok. let us assume Tiruma gets elected to Parliament. Will the INDIAN STATE stop the proxy war? Will the INDIAN STATE stop colluding the Srilankan State?

    Be it Tiruma or Vaiko, both are crude opportunists and though I have political differences, I think PDK and Seeman are thousand times genuine than the so-called warriors. Until when Eelam is only treated from emotional aspects, it is easy to cheat the Tamil people both here and there. Only when Tamils here sense that as citizens of India, which is involved in a genocide, it is their prime duty to expose and fight against their own State, INDIAN STATE, real warriors and real solutions will emerge.

    • me1084, Okay, let us assume that he doesn’t get elected. The Indian state goes ahead with its war as usual. Okay, let us assume that he does get elected. The Indian state will go ahead with the war as usual: but we will have a voice of DISSENT, from someone who is an MP, someone who is a people’s representative. That sort of voices within the system, which speak out against it, is also important. Doesn’t matter whether it is a Vaiko, or a Thiruma, or any Mr.X.

      When I was thinking of sane options, I was only thinking of something within electoral democracy. If VCK/DMDK decides to boycott elections, that will only mean that the respective party disappears into political wilderness. Not just for him, but for anyone who takes that sort of a stand.. Forget Thiruma, Vaiko, Karunanidhi, anyone. At the end of the day, a huge section of the voting population is going to cast its votes either for money, or because of coercion. Who can stop that from happening?

      Reg. the nature of the state, all of us know about it. But how do we act? Not in the sense of individuals, but collectively? I would love to read some of your ideas on that.

  17. Ronin says:

    “I normally never write about politics in my blog. Because, I am far more interested about issues than about the people who are fighting for/against something. I am not the member of any political party. I doubt if I will ever join a party in this lifetime. I like the autonomy of being a writer.”

    Meena:

    On a lighter note. There was another writer, poet colleague of yours. She also used to write in English newspapers. She also swore she wont get into politics.

    Later she became a Rajya sabha MP. Ms. Kanimozhi. Can we expect the same from you..:-) Aren’t promises made to be broken..

    Cheers,

    • Ronin, I know that politics is powerful, but it requires too many compromises. I can sympathize with anyone who is into politics. But, will I put myself into it? No, never. A writer might get nothing done apart from putting words on to paper, but then she doesn’t have to listen to ANYBODY. Very few professions in the world give you that kind of autonomy. I am getting out of teaching itself in a couple of months. I am too free-spirited, too unconventional and too bad-mannered (and brutally frank) to be a politician. I don’t imagine that happening. This isn’t a promise. This is just temperament. I know I will never join any political party in the same manner in which I know that I won’t be an airhostess. I absolutely like the idea of these two professions, but then I am also sure that I am unsuited for either.

  18. me1084 says:

    //voice of DISSENT//
    There is a huge voice of DISSENT from Tamilnadu for the past six months. But the STATE has totally ignored it just because it is just voice. when DISSENT puts itself within the confines of voice, you cannot expect reactions. DISSENT needs to grow in to action. But all the Tamil Nationalist torchbearers are more careful in restricting the DISSENT within voice or to put it precise, word jugglery.

    //If VCK/DMDK decides to boycott elections, that will only mean that the respective party disappears into political wilderness. Not just for him, but for anyone who takes that sort of a stand..//

    //At the end of the day, a huge section of the voting population is going to cast its votes either for money, or because of coercion. Who can stop that from happening?//

    All these arguments are what exactly MLA Ravikumar has been propagating inside VCK which Tiruma by himself acknowledged yesterday in a meeting. These arugments arise from the basic conception that masses are herds and only leaders matter. What do you think about the Manipur struggle that shook Delhi though it failed afterwards? To awaken Masses what you need is courage and not the recognition of being in the constitutional framework. When Masses are with you, it doesn’t matter whether you contest or don’t contest elections.

    //Reg. the nature of the state, all of us know about it.//

    I differ. Not everyone knows the exact nature of the state and act accordingly. if not, then the basic premise of the current ‘struggle’ of MDMK/VCK wouldn’t stand. It all starts from how Tigers view Indian State. They actively colluded with RAW for decades and after IPKF fiasco, the relationship between them got strained. Now in the current wave of offensive started by Sinhalese Army, the initial stand of LTTE was to argue the benefits of Indian State when it has a reliable partner. when INDIAN STATE continuously ignored this argument, they started exposing the strategic working relationship between the two states. You can see VCK//MDMK/PDK simply echoed this strategy here.

    The collective action comes from sincerity. But when opportunism reigns as the leading strategy, it becomes the prime obstacle for collective action.

    • I read abt Thiruma’s speech yesterday from Dinamani… He’s spoken like you, about giving up electoral politics. Knowing his unpredictable nature, perhaps even that might come about. Who knows. As I read that article I was thinking only of YOU. 🙂

  19. Ronin says:

    There have been great leaders in every street without the platform or money or marketing prowess.

    There are constitutional leaders and leaders outside the constitution. I would call Veeramani, Cho, rajinikanth etc thought leaders outside the democratic setup. You may question their thoughts but not their following.

    We can’t reject that the democratic setup has done wonders in India. People who don’t know the issues 50-100 yrs ago, can only claim that the Indian democracy has failed.

    “basic conception that masses are herds and only leaders matter”

    Yes, it is true unless there is an issue that affects the food, clothing or lifestyle of the people. Lets have a reality check. Eelam issue does not affect any of this for TN tamils. Empathy is a gift and I cant force or complain that another one does not have it.

    The leaders represent not only Eelam issue but various other genuine causes. For ex, Thiruma represent growth of dalits, Vaiko represents alternative to DmK or ADMK, PMK represents Vanniar votebank..

    All issues are important to someone or other. We cant expect Thiruma to sacrifice all other commitments for Eelam cause. it is unfair.

    Going to Loksabha-There is not one honest independent thinker in Loksabha from TN. If we ask Thiruma and Vaiko to quit political representation, that is akin to rejecting our belief in democracy and independent thinking..

  20. Baski says:

    Meena,

    I can see your affection with VCK party and respect to Mr.Thiruma.

    Have you seen his first interview with Ravi Bernad about his political ambitions.???

    From his begining till now, he has one strong ambition. that is
    “S U R V I V E”

    He is much lower than a normal politician. Brainless fellow.

  21. me1084 says:

    Meena, thanks for the kind note. But as you know it’s not my individual thoughts but the thoughts of my organization, People’s Art and Literary Association. We have explained our stand in this blog.

    http://springthunder.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/eelam-smash-the-indian-hegemony/

    http://springthunder.wordpress.com/2008/12/27/eelam-protests-of-revolutionary-organisations-in-tamilnadu/

    //Knowing his unpredictable nature, perhaps even that might come about.//

    Sorry for continuing but couldn’t resist. Since you read the interview you must have noticed what he has to say at last. They are winning the two seats and in 2011 VCK will be winning blah, blah seats. why such a glaring contradiction between the first part and second part of his speech? I find a similarity between Karunanidhi and Tiruma here. That self-pity note, imagination of constraints, and the u-turn decisions… You may get offended but i have to say, Tiruma is on the making of Karunanidhi.

    @Ronin

    //We can’t reject that the democratic setup has done wonders in India. People who don’t know the issues 50-100 yrs ago, can only claim that the Indian democracy has failed.//

    please speak to masses Ronin. Jaagore enthusiasts may give umpteen definitions for our pseudo-democracy but in reality ordinary people simply don’t care for this democracy because it has no role to play in their life. I can put it this way. People who don’t know the issues of today of every day life, can only claim that the Indian democracy is glowing.

    //Yes, it is true unless there is an issue that affects the food, clothing or lifestyle of the people.//

    This is sheer degradation of masses.people were ready to empathise with Eelam issue from 1983 to 1991, people were ready to take up the cause of Anti-Hindi Agitation in 1965…it was not affecting their food, clothing or lifestyle. And, what the so-called intelligent people, ‘who don’t care for food, clothing or lifestyle’ are doing better than the ordinary masses?

    //Lets have a reality check. Eelam issue does not affect any of this for TN tamils.//

    WHY is the question.It is because of the repeated stabbing of the Dravidian parties, sincerely followed by Vaiko/Tiruma now, has pushed people to loose faith in their hue and cry.

    //We cant expect Thiruma to sacrifice all other commitments for Eelam cause. it is unfair.//

    What are the other commitments other than winning elections for Tiruma at present? It’s long time he fought for the causes of Dalits.You can get an idea of how Tiruma has degenerated in recent years reading the posts below.(NOTE: the links are in Tamil.)

    http://tamilcircle.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1178:–q—-&catid=36:2007

    http://tamilcircle.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1171:2008-05-04-15-36-57&catid=36:2007

    http://tamilcircle.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1371:2008-05-13-20-09-21&catid=35:2006

    http://tamilcircle.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1446:2008-05-15-07-12-38&catid=34:2005

    //If we ask Thiruma and Vaiko to quit political representation, that is akin to rejecting our belief in democracy and independent thinking..//

    Independent thinking.. all sorts of opportunism cannot be bundled as Independent Thinking. We don’t ask Tiruma and Vaiko to quit political representation, i.e., representation of opportunism. we need to kick them out as these kind of forces including the parliamentary left are the prime obstacles of organising people as these forces cheat people with all their progressive phrases and become a screen to the ruling classes.

    On an emotive note, I went to Muthukumar’s funeral. Even Meena was there. You must know what happened on the first day. Muthukumar wanted his body to be used as a tool to organise people but our great leaders Vaiko, Tiruma and Nallakannu wanted to bury the body same day. Only we,Vellaiyan and Law college students resisted the move and after the protests of the emotionally charged Students, leaders backtracked from the decision. What happened to all the emotional scenes played out by Vaiko and Tiruma in their funeral speech of Muthukumar? Now I don’t argue with someone who says Muthukumar is a fool to believe Tiruma and his likes.

  22. G Saravanan says:

    Meena,
    Your article on Thiruma is good. But I suspect that your words may brand you. So, drive home the point.

  23. me1084 says:

    That’s great Ronin. Moderate Comments and don’t publish comments that doesn’t goes with you. Long Live Democracy!

  24. me1084 says:

    Meena, thanks for the kind note. But as you know it’s not my individual thoughts but the thoughts of my organization, People’s Art and Literary Association. We have explained our stand in this blog.

    http://springthunder.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/eelam-smash-the-indian-hegemony/

    http://springthunder.wordpress.com/2008/12/27/eelam-protests-of-revolutionary-organisations-in-tamilnadu/

    //Knowing his unpredictable nature, perhaps even that might come about.//

    Sorry for continuing but couldn’t resist. Since you read the interview you must have noticed what he has to say at last. They are winning the two seats and in 2011 VCK will be winning blah, blah seats. why such a glaring contradiction between the first part and second part of his speech? I find a similarity between Karunanidhi and Tiruma here. That self-pity note, imagination of constraints, and the u-turn decisions… You may get offended but i have to say, Tiruma is on the making of Karunanidhi.

    @Ronin

    //We can’t reject that the democratic setup has done wonders in India. People who don’t know the issues 50-100 yrs ago, can only claim that the Indian democracy has failed.//

    please speak to masses Ronin. Jaagore enthusiasts may give umpteen definitions for our pseudo-democracy but in reality ordinary people simply don’t care for this democracy because it has no role to play in their life. I can put it this way. People who don’t know the issues of today of every day life, can only claim that the Indian democracy is glowing.

    //Yes, it is true unless there is an issue that affects the food, clothing or lifestyle of the people.//

    This is sheer degradation of masses.people were ready to empathise with Eelam issue from 1983 to 1991, people were ready to take up the cause of Anti-Hindi Agitation in 1965…it was not affecting their food, clothing or lifestyle. And, what the so-called intelligent people, ‘who don’t care for food, clothing or lifestyle’ are doing better than the ordinary masses?

    //Lets have a reality check. Eelam issue does not affect any of this for TN tamils.//

    WHY is the question.It is because of the repeated stabbing of the Dravidian parties, sincerely followed by Vaiko/Tiruma now, has pushed people to loose faith in their hue and cry.

    //We cant expect Thiruma to sacrifice all other commitments for Eelam cause. it is unfair.//

    What are the other commitments other than winning elections for Tiruma at present? It’s long time he fought for the causes of Dalits.You can get an idea of how Tiruma has degenerated in recent years reading the posts below.(NOTE: the links are in Tamil.)

    http://tamilcircle.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1178:–q—-&catid=36:2007

    http://tamilcircle.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1171:2008-05-04-15-36-57&catid=36:2007

    http://tamilcircle.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1371:2008-05-13-20-09-21&catid=35:2006

    http://tamilcircle.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1446:2008-05-15-07-12-38&catid=34:2005

    //If we ask Thiruma and Vaiko to quit political representation, that is akin to rejecting our belief in democracy and independent thinking..//

    Independent thinking.. all sorts of opportunism cannot be bundled as Independent Thinking. We don’t ask Tiruma and Vaiko to quit political representation, i.e., representation of opportunism. we need to kick them out as these kind of forces including the parliamentary left are the prime obstacles of organising people as these forces cheat people with all their progressive phrases and become a screen to the ruling classes.

    On an emotive note, I went to Muthukumar’s funeral. Even Meena was there. You must know what happened on the first day. Muthukumar wanted his body to be used as a tool to organise people but our great leaders Vaiko, Tiruma and Nallakannu wanted to bury the body same day. Only we,Vellaiyan and Law college students resisted the move and after the protests of the emotionally charged Students, leaders backtracked from the decision. What happened to all the emotional scenes played out by Vaiko and Tiruma in their funeral speech of Muthukumar? Now I don’t argue with someone who says Muthukumar is a fool to believe Tiruma and his likes.

  25. me1084 says:

    Meena, thanks for the kind note. But as you know it’s not my individual thoughts but the thoughts of my organization, People’s Art and Literary Association. We have explained our stand in here.

    //Knowing his unpredictable nature, perhaps even that might come about.//

    Sorry for continuing but couldn’t resist. Since you read the interview you must have noticed what he has to say at last. They are winning the two seats and in 2011 VCK will be winning blah, blah seats. why such a glaring contradiction between the first part and second part of his speech? I find a similarity between Karunanidhi and Tiruma here. That self-pity note, imagination of constraints, and the u-turn decisions… You may get offended but i have to say, Tiruma is on the making of Karunanidhi.

    @Ronin

    //We can’t reject that the democratic setup has done wonders in India. People who don’t know the issues 50-100 yrs ago, can only claim that the Indian democracy has failed.//

    please speak to masses Ronin. Jaagore enthusiasts may give umpteen definitions for our pseudo-democracy but in reality ordinary people simply don’t care for this democracy because it has no role to play in their life. I can put it this way. People who don’t know the issues of today of every day life, can only claim that the Indian democracy is glowing.

    //Yes, it is true unless there is an issue that affects the food, clothing or lifestyle of the people.//

    This is sheer degradation of masses.people were ready to empathise with Eelam issue from 1983 to 1991, people were ready to take up the cause of Anti-Hindi Agitation in 1965…it was not affecting their food, clothing or lifestyle. And, what the so-called intelligent people, ‘who don’t care for food, clothing or lifestyle’ are doing better than the ordinary masses?

    //Lets have a reality check. Eelam issue does not affect any of this for TN tamils.//

    WHY is the question.It is because of the repeated stabbing of the Dravidian parties, sincerely followed by Vaiko/Tiruma now, has pushed people to loose faith in their hue and cry.

    //We cant expect Thiruma to sacrifice all other commitments for Eelam cause. it is unfair.//

    What are the other commitments other than winning elections for Tiruma at present? It’s long time he fought for the causes of Dalits.You can get an idea of how Tiruma has degenerated in recent years reading the posts here, here,here and here.(NOTE: the links are in Tamil.)

    //If we ask Thiruma and Vaiko to quit political representation, that is akin to rejecting our belief in democracy and independent thinking..//

    Independent thinking.. all sorts of opportunism cannot be bundled as Independent Thinking. We don’t ask Tiruma and Vaiko to quit political representation, i.e., representation of opportunism. we need to kick them out as these kind of forces including the parliamentary left are the prime obstacles of organising people as these forces cheat people with all their progressive phrases and become a screen to the ruling classes.

    On an emotive note, I went to Muthukumar’s funeral. Even Meena was there. You must know what happened on the first day. Muthukumar wanted his body to be used as a tool to organise people but our great leaders Vaiko, Tiruma and Nallakannu wanted to bury the body same day. Only we,Vellaiyan and Law college students resisted the move and after the protests of the emotionally charged Students, leaders backtracked from the decision. What happened to all the emotional scenes played out by Vaiko and Tiruma in their funeral speech of Muthukumar? Now I don’t argue with someone who says Muthukumar is a fool to believe Tiruma and his likes.

    • No, I would beg to differ with a lot of the contents. But I am hardpressed for time, so I will stick to the most important. I know from a lot of sources that it was NOT thirumaa who wanted to bury Muthukumar the same day. Please talk to Tha. Vellaiyan or his brother Director Pugalendhi. He was the only political leader who stood with Tha.Vellaiyan. And I am quoting extremely credible (as well as non-VCK) sources…

  26. me1084 says:

    Sorry Ronin. I posted the last comment today morning and it wasn’t getting in. May be because i didn’t anchored the links by then. SO i thought you have enabled comment moderation.

  27. ragulkumar says:

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  28. Kumaran says:

    Ever since Thirumavalavan joined the DMK/Congress alliance, he has almost forgetten the plight of Ealam Tamils. He has even started to say that he will be loyal to Congress for admitting his party in the DMK/Congress alliance and he will not forget this for ever. Watching the way the Tamil Nadu politics is developing I will not be surprised Thirumavalavan may beg for a ministerial post, an “Ellumbu thundu” from Congress in the next government if Congress forsm the next government.

  29. Ronin says:

    We are going in loops..

    1. Should Thiruma join ADMK front
    2. Should Thiruma join DMK front
    3. Should he stand alone and lose. And keep shouting at street corners abt Eeelam.

    He chose what is the best avl option among them.

  30. Ronin says:

    me1084:

    Obviously the path you are talking is very different..My comments are not relevant in your path..

  31. me1084 says:

    //I know from a lot of sources that it was NOT thirumaa who wanted to bury Muthukumar the same day. Please talk to Tha. Vellaiyan or his brother Director Pugalendhi. He was the only political leader who stood with Tha.Vellaiyan.//

    Well Meena, first of all Director Pugalendhi was not there. It was Vaiko, Nallakannu, Tiruma, Vellaiyan and Srinivasan of PALA were the people who were present in the discussion. Nallakannu came up with a bizarre explanation that Muthukumar’s corpse cannot be cremated on Saturday citing a Tamil Proverb.”sani ponam thaniya pohadhu” Vaiko, Nallakannu stood for burying on the same day. Tiruma initially was silent but later said he is with Vaiko and Nallakannu. Srinivasan and Vellaiyan differed and they said the body should be cremated the next day. Atlast, as per Vaiko’s word, decision was taken on Majority. Vellaiyan was asked to announce the decision. Vellaiyan hesitated but he agreed and went to the shielding students. He started saying that there were two opinions regarding the day of cremation. First one is to bury on the next day and he couldn’t convey the second one as the students shouted they won’t hear the second opinion and there is no need for second decision. Thus, every leader had to go by the students.

  32. A.Gopal says:

    Dear Meena Kandasamy
    You are right. I respect Thiruma ,Ramadoss and Vaiko
    COULD YOU GIVE THE NAMES OF THE BOOKS YOU TRANSLATED FROM TAMIL INTO ENGLISH
    GOPAL TORONTO CANADA

  33. A.Gopal says:

    TAMIL NATIONALISTA ALL LONG LIVE IN TAMIL NAADU
    THIRAVIDAN CANADA

  34. Prakash says:

    Wow! So much of discussions on VCK joining DMK ? Come on folks – lets vote for Thiruma & MDMK in their respective constituencies and weed out DMK, ADMK, Congress, Vijayakanth, PMK – vote for independent candidates where Thiruma or Vaiko are not contesting. Unless you show them your emotions, they will never hear you. And we bloody Tamilians are famous for our emotional nature – so lets show them.

    If DMK & Congress comes to power – you not only should forget SriLankan Tamils, you should as well forget any “maanam” (pride) left for Tamils in TamilNadu.

    Any worthy person in TamilNadu will leave to other states (thank god, I already live in another state) or countries, speak another language, live a different culture and die a different person – NOT AS A TAMIL. Far more better way to die. NEVER AGAIN SPEAK ABOUT THE GLORY OF TAMILS.

    If it happens, you so called “thinkers” find ways of how to lead the “stupid” materialistic, consumerist tamilian into a more decent living. Its a shame we have to tell a race, to shield its own race – even dogs need not be taught that. If you cant lead them, stop talking and save the grace.

    • Nithyananthan says:

      A good telling-off, Mr. Prakash, there are tamils to heed what you said, would every tamil heed it?

  35. G Saravanan says:

    It seems that VCK Chief Thol Thirumavalavan has decided to withdraw his party from the Lok sabha polls. And the announcement is expected at Veeramani’s function at Vepery on April 21.
    It may be a rumour.

  36. Ronin says:

    Hopefully Thol. Thirumavalavan does not retire from the competition..

    Subramanian Swamy has asked voters to defeat Thiruma and Vaiko specifically. At least this is an evidence this guys are more trustable..

    We live in a connected and democratized world..We can’t ignore any avenues to put forth our viewpoints..even if we think they are just and obvious..Let’s send this guys to Loksabha..

    I remind again to support Thiruma financially, please go to:
    http://www.vck.in
    There is a link to the right for paypal..He is not financially very well endowed.

    Disclaimer: I am not a VCK supporter or his caste member..

  37. Pius says:

    “Consequently, there was no alternative front in Tamil Nadu forged solely for the Eelam cause”

    Why should there be such a front solely for the Eelam Cause?

    It is Indian General Elections for Indian Parliament, and the MPs getting selected, are to work together to better the prosperity and peace of this country.

    Srilanka is a foreign country; and the Tamils there are Srilankan citizens. For India, it is a foreign issue.

    If a party in TN becomes a front solely for the Eelam Cause, may it be so; but it should not contest Indian elections for Indian Parliament.

    That is like selecting a Pakistani group as MPs for Indian parliament and asking them to voice the cause of Pakistan in Indian Parliament!

    Are we to sell our country thus?

    Please remember, you call yourself an Indian Tamil. Be so first and foremost. Be true to the salt.

    Coming to Thiruma, who is he? Why did he form a party at all? It was for dalits, you know.

    Having realized that he could not coral all Tamil dalits under his wings(i.e turning them to be his solid vote bank) he hit upon the idea of broad basing his party; for which, he has sacrificed his original cause of dalit voice.

    His realisation of fractured vote bank of dalits in TN is true: for, in TN, dalits are a divided house – that wont stand. Dalits are play things in the hands of others.

    Thiruma, a consummate opportunist that he is, and, fired with the ambition of becoming a big leader, enough to be a mover and shaker in New Delhi as successfully as Ramadass, is taking up the cause of Eelam.

    Tamil Eelam issue has not moved TN based Tamils into a single vote bank. This fiasco came into being gradually, what with various circumstances – one of them being LTTE’s approach to the problem. The sordit fact is that LTTE is led by a man who has scant regard or respect for any intellectual thinking. He believes in ‘action’ without ‘thought’. He hates ‘cool thinking’

    Pictures of forlorn, ragged and piteous looking Lankan Tamils moving away from War zone, may move the Tamil voters at the last minute before they go to cast their ballots; but that requires saavy and sleek advertisement campaign by LTTE supporters in TN.

  38. Exactly the point Pius. I do not understand why Srilankan issue is playing a major role in current Indian central election. Isn’t there a single party in Tamil Nadu that would want to goto Parliament for the sake of Indian tamils?

    • Nithyananthan says:

      I address this to my Sinhalese friends jabbering on all forum and to all non-Sri Lankan nationals who are interested but still unaware of the political history and curious about to know what’s going on in the Island.

      To be precise, Sri Lanka is an island nation composed of two main ethnic groups (Namely Sinhalese 70%, Tamils 24% Islamic people 6%) belong four religious faiths (Buddhism 60%, Hinduism 20%, Islam 12% & Christianity 8%). There is longstanding ethnic strife between Sinhalese and Tamils – one dominates and discriminates the other, in all aspects of decent human life. Tamils enjoy the affinity and moral support for their struggle that emanates due placental attachment with the Tamils of Tamil Nadu – South India.

      Firstly, let’s bear in mind three Points that;
      • The Ceylon Tamil people never thought of Eelam until 1973, nonetheless they were reminded to fight for it in 1976. They are neither fighting for a seat in the UN or memberships in International Institutions nor for presidency nor ministerial positions.
      • Eelam Tamil People wholeheartedly also overwhelmingly rejected, one after the other, the calls for any forms of territorial separation or division of ‘Ceylon’ (Sri Lanka); and struggled for political co-existence in an undivided Sri Lanka, until 1983.
      • Tamil people of Eelam gave an early notification / warning, 36 years ago in 1973, about their struggle for ‘Eelam’ to the Sinhalese Seat of Power in Colombo.

      Let’s have a glance at highlights of events that took-place in the last 60 years of Political History of Ceylon – i.e. after departure of Britain. Current armed struggle for restoration of ‘Eelam Homeland’ didn’t pop-up out of the ‘Blues’ – nor suddenly dropped from the Moon or Mars; rather it’s home grown. It’s the manifestation of frustration endured over the years of relentless subjection and armed suppression unleashed against unarmed, non-violent Ghandhian campaigns by the successive governments until 1983. As such, the question of ‘Homeland’ turned into an armed self-defense and struggle for ‘Independence’ in 1976. Rejection of separate ‘Independent Tamil Eelam’ by the Tamils has long history;
      • Following the 1957 & 58, violence against Tamils, the late Prof. C Suntharalingham, then an MP for Vavuniya, formed a new party and declared armed struggle for Independence of Eelam and assembled an army in Padaviya. Tamils rejected his move for “Separation’ and he lost the election in 1960; Federal Party’s (FP) call for Federalism was elected with over-whelming majority.
      • The late Mr. V Navaratnam, fomer MP for Kaytes, was expelled from FP for calling for separation, also formed new party to work towards Independence; and he also lost seat in 1965. Tamils rejected again his move for “Separation’ and he lost the election in 1965; Federal Party’s (FP) call for Federalism was elected with over-whelming majority.
      • At last the FP scaled down from its demand for ‘Federalism’ to a mere Six (06) Points Minimum Demands in 1972 – 73; at the Constituent Assembly where the ground-work was formulated to rename island as ‘Sri Lanka’; and found the only safeguard for the minorities known as ‘Chapter 29’ of former constitution was too removed; and found their ‘Minimum Six Demands’ also was thrown into the trash without any consultation.

      In 1973, after winning the historic bi-election with unprecedented majority against Mr. V Pon’nambalam (CP Pk), proclaiming the struggle for ‘Independent Eelam’ as the only issue; the late great charismatic visionary leader SJV Chelva’nayagham made a speech announcing the ‘Tamil People’s Verdict’ in the Parliament and prophetically warned of the consequences of the then impending disasters of hunger, starvation, loss of lives would lead to the current turmoil and international interventions in affairs of Sri Lanka. Listening to SJV’s speech before and after the election, Mr. Felix Dias R. Bandaranayakae, then Mister of Home Affairs, made a sarcastic foul speech ridiculing the former’s declaration. This is not a fiction. Hansard (Parliamentary Proceedings Documentation) speaks much clearer. Thanks a Lot! May God bless human beings with Wisdom!

  39. Prakash says:

    Hi Benedict Herold:

    Tamils are a single race where ever they are. For argument sake, no offence, will you say the same thing, if one of your relative has settled in SriLanka – might be quite some centuries back – but still ?

    The logic behind it is, if a Tamil political party cannot take care of its own race in SriLanka, tomorrow on what ground do we expect them to take care of Indian Tamil needs ?

    • Prakash, this is same scenario with Pakistan. Again just for an argument sake; Will you allow Muslims to support Paskistani terror group for the same reason?

    • Ronin says:

      Benedict:

      Let me rephrase the question this way:

      If the ethnic Kashmiri community feels harassed by the majority Indian community and does not feel to be part of the majority community, and if they did feel rightfully so, would you still support the majority community to enforce their edict and wills on the minority Kashmiri community.

      so what abt individuals rights, right to self determination, ethics, dignity, civilization etc.

      How is this different from thievery and slavery?

    • Prakash says:

      Benedict:

      Sorry, was not following this thread, just got to see your reply. No common man will support a group when they harm his own race or if it watches his race being killed. Are the millions of displaced tamils against LTTE ?

      Lets forget SriLanka for a moment, dont we feel horrible/ pathetic when we see people being killed in Mumbai terror attacks, twin tower attack, palestine attacks, african attacks ? Are we not stunned for a moment, when we hear a horrible accident of a neighbour ? Empathy is not restricted to race, language, religion etc. It is an emotion, an evolved human being is supposed to feel when he/she finds his/her fellow human being suffering.

      The pity is, we need to teach some race to have empathy on its own race! So engrossed is the race in its livelihood- its like the body eating its own head 🙂

      Adding to what Ronin said answered, I am not aware of any society asking for freedom or rights, when they are treated well. Why would there be ULFA in North East India ? Its the only way they found to get the attention from a huge elephant to turn and watch an ant who is suffering. I am not supporting terrorism, at the same time, I am not supporting an organisation which needs to be attacked for attention.

  40. guest says:

    >If the ethnic Kashmiri community feels harassed by the majority Indian community and does not feel to be part of the majority community, and if they did feel rightfully so, would you still support the majority community to enforce their edict and wills on the minority Kashmiri community.

    >so what abt individuals rights, right to self determination, ethics, dignity, civilization etc. – Ronin

    What if the ethnic Kashmiri community do not have a consensus on this issue? What if there is a differene of opinion within the Kashmiri community with regards to separation? How do you think that issue be solved?

    • Ronin says:

      Lets take a referendum and decide based on the results..This is like Hitler saying, Indians don’t need freedom as they are not capable of ruling themselves..

      Who am I or you to decide that? Let the Eelam people decide..

  41. Pius says:

    Thank you, Mr Nithyanandan for leading the readers here down memory lane, although your target readership comprises those who, to use your words, jabber pro-sinhala slogans in many fora.

    Demand for Tamil Eeelam has a long history; and a logical corollary of compelling historical circumstances; which, no doubt, brought about by Sinhalese chauvinism.

    But we are in 2009 and much waters have flown down the bridges in Northern SL. A demand which should have been brought to conclusion seems to have been botched up!

    I think it is LTTE who has done it. About that, you are not telling us a single word. Any movement should have a direction; if not, it will hit the road, and stop, wont it?

    LTTE has chosen armed struggle that is the common thing among separatist movements elsewhere in the world; and, in many a struggle, victory has been got. But those struggles are rooted in idealism; and, here, it is more rooted in egoism than idealism. If not, how will you account for assassinations of fellow Tamil leaders by LTTE?

    So, here it is not mere armed struggle; but rutheless pursuit of megalomania of a single man, V.P.

    All that is said by you here is true. All that you have not said is that the idealistic fervor germinated and gestated, but now grown to fruit, has been scotched up by the LTTE.

    In sum, the struggle for Tamil Eeelam has defeated itself!

  42. guest says:

    >Lets take a referendum and decide based on the results – Ronin

    That is my question! How do you arrive at a referendum?

    >Who am I or you to decide that? Let the Eelam people decide. – Ronin.

    We are not deciding anything. You mentioned about individual rights, self determination etc. I am trying to understand where the line should be drawn?! Who determines the type of rule? Should an indivudal tamil decide? Should srilankan tamils as a group decide? Should sinhalese as a group decide? Should srilankans (including both tamils and sinhalese) as a group decide?

    • Ronin says:

      Gentleman:

      Are you serious or are you asking many questions for fun!

      A referendum is where people vote for a decision making..UN could arrange it..or even SL can arrange it.

      Obviously I cant vote..neither the Sinhalese..Only the eelam tamils can vote..We didnt ask france to decide if they want to rule Algeria in the referendum. Only the algerians decided. Although they were part of one single French empire earlier.

  43. guest says:

    >Are you serious or are you asking many questions for fun! – Ronin.

    Serious questions but I am trying to create a light atmosphere 🙂

    >A referendum is where people vote for a decision making..UN could arrange it..or even SL can arrange it.

    So the answer emerges! You will still decide on voting. In other words, a *majority* will still be enforcing its edicts and wills on the *minority*, isn’t it?

    • Ronin says:

      Yes sir..

      Ah! Am sorry..Not very impressed with your arguing skills. ..Let me guess, Anna, BITS, IIT, NIT, IIM etc? at least engineering..definetely south Indian..mostly Tamil!..mostly..lets leave that 🙂

      The point is not abt who wins arguments here..And life is not decided on arguments either..It is a stupid system that lets stupid people win!

      Coming back-Is our argument abt how to make decisions consensus or majority..Isn’t there a difference between stealing a chicken and murdering a human..This kind of half true arguments supporting the murderers are worser than the chauvinism of the murderers..at least they are honest! Isn’t there a chasm of difference in govt enforcing will in Madras and Eelam..

    • Shotgun Murugan says:

      guest sir, majority of Tamils should decide the future of majority of Tamils.

      majority of Sinhalese should decide the future of majority of Sinhalese.

      I have said what i know. you decide if it is right or wrong.

    • Shotgun Murugan says:

      the problem is majority of Sinhalese are now deciding the future of majority of Tamils.

    • vikadakavi says:

      > You will still decide on voting. In other words, a *majority* will still be enforcing its edicts and wills on the *minority*, isn’t it?

      Is that all your point? Really?
      Majority Indian/SriLankan community thrusting their opinion on Kashmiri/Eelam is subjugation.
      They themselves deciding their fate, is self-determination.

      If, as you do, one wants to get argumentative and argue what if there is disagreement, or no consensus, there is still an answer. The split will happen recursively further. Its not a majority over minority, at any level. The reality is, at some point, people come into a consensus. They work together. No matter what the fundamentlists do with their hatred game, at some level, people are practical and use their common sense.

      I see a lot of ‘question marks’ but I fail to see a point.

  44. guest says:

    > Not very impressed with your arguing skills…-Ronin.

    Alright!Adios!

    • Nithyananthan says:

      Dear Ronin!
      You are right from my point of view in every angle 360 degrees around. An argument should be an objective oriented – it shouldn’t be for the sake of argument. It’s endless like egg & chicken quiz. No street vendor puts orange, lemon and lime together on display because they belong to one citrus family. There is vast difference yet it’s very difficult to differentiate ‘Killing and Murder’ and ‘Etiquette and Manners’.

  45. me1084 says:

    @Ronin

    //This kind of half true arguments supporting the murderers are worser than the chauvinism of the murderers..at least they are honest!//

    precisely!

  46. Senthil says:

    hi..
    There was no other option for Thiruma other than joining hands with DMK. But as a person who supports to Eelam , i would be thankful to thiruma for his supporting words and trying to sort out the problems to the people.. Its my kind request to Chidambaram peoples to vote for Thiruma and for Virudunagar candidates to vote for VaiKo.. Because these 2 peoples can really speak about the eelam problem in the parliament.. PLEASE DONT VOTE FOR CONGRESS ALLIANCE……………..(except Thiruma)

  47. Harish says:

    Hi Meena,

    I totally dont agree with your view(It may be my personal view).

    //From your scenarios you have explained that its difficult for him to choose an option to be contesting individually , to be true if he would have contested individually he would have gained more respect from people all over Tamilnadu. The thing is that he would have contested in Chidambaram(even with or without alliance) and would have won with large majority beating the the other parties.Others could argue that he has lost earlier but now the scenario is more different because after the EELAM issue he has a reach far more than any of his other counterparts.You have described about the violence against the VCK cadres and also about the financial inabilities if he is not contesting the election its not accepatable because there is no chance that he will loose the election . To be true only the DMK needs his support not Thiruma.

    //Please dont justify the fact that he has joined with DMK because MK is the one who has given him a place in his heart(not a seat to contest in LS ELECTION LAST YEAR).They are trying to use his name which he has in EELAM issue for he election beacuse eveyone knows that people are angry about the ongoing problems and knew that wat the government has done to this issue.And also the congress has not come down becasue a couple of months back the same party leaders were asking for the arrest of Thiruma. Now they are dumb because they need votes. One thing Thiruma needs to clarify is about his statement during his fast(There will not be any party named congress after election) because you have said that the party workers will be confused to whom to vote for in election since you have only two major alliance one is DMK led and another ADMK.

    We really respect Thiruma for his stands in EELAM issue and we will be behind him in this issue always.But we disagree his alliance.

    Thanks Harish

  48. guest says:

    >If, as you do, one wants to get argumentative and argue what if there is disagreement, or no consensus, there is still an answer. The split will happen recursively further. Its not a majority over minority, at any level. The reality is, at some point, people come into a consensus. – Vikadakavi.

    But it did not happen in Sri lanka. The majority crushed the minority. Why didn’t people come into a consensus?

    Aren’t you the one who talked about speculative philosophy and analytical philosophy?

    • vikadakavi says:

      I repeat: The recursive split stops, at some point.
      Whats your point, guest? I am still searching.

      The fact that people did not agree at a larger group *is* the topic, and you are observing the obvious. Why Srilanka. World all over, we had similar scenarios. How about adding your point, instead of the obvious circular game?

      Majority crushed the minority.
      Some people here fight against it.
      Some people here smile at it.
      Which group are you in?
      If you want to claim to be the former, what are you arguing about? 🙂

  49. guest says:

    >I repeat: The recursive split stops, at some point.
    >Whats your point, guest?
    >what are you arguing about? – vikadakavi.

    A system that is based on majority rule will invaribaly result in majority crushing minority at some point.

    >Which group are you in? – vikadakavi.

    What do you think?

    • vikadakavi says:

      > A system that is based on majority rule
      > will invaribaly result in majority crushing
      > minority at some point.

      And…?

    • vikadakavi says:

      > A system that is based on majority rule
      > will invariably result in majority crushing
      > minority at some point.

      And…?
      And there was silence. No more arguments.

      Minority will be crushed is an armchair observation.
      Minority should not be crushed is a progressive thought.
      Writers are of the latter category.

    • guest says:

      >Minority will be crushed is an armchair observation.
      The observation is not that *Minority is being crushed*. The observation is *Minority is being crushed in a democracy*. Unfortunately, many fail to see it.

  50. I find some ridiculous arguments being put forth here – that in a referendum, the voice of minority dissenting Tamils will not be heard – nonsense!

    If a referendum is held for a Free Tamil Eelam and only the inhabitants of the traditional Tamil homeland are allowed to vote, there is no doubt in anybody’s minds about what the result will be. For the few dissenting Tamils who do not want a Free Tamil Eelam, they are welcome to move to Sinhala Lanka, since that is what they want! Nobody would force them to remain in Tamil Eelam, their opinion would be respected and they would be welcome to go to Sinhala Lanka!

  51. A system where anyone crushes another at any ponit of time simply does not deserve to exist – period!

  52. vikadakavi says:

    > The observation is not that *Minority is being crushed*.
    > The observation is *Minority is being crushed in a democracy*.
    > Unfortunately, many fail to see it. – guest

    They do see it. 🙂

    When talking about referendums, you can either *add* your point, or you can *argue* with your point.
    After arguing, you are now ending with an already known observation.

  53. P.sathishkumar says:

    Good decistion thiruma him told reasons all are true in vck and dalit position. first time give the chance in rulling party alliance in tamilnadu perticularly in dalit party so thiruma take decesition is good.

  54. Senthilkumar says:

    Thiruma’s speech
    http://www.thiruma.in/search/label/%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%B3%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%8D
    Looks like Thiruma is convinced that Congress is in no way connected with the Srilankan war.

  55. Senthilkumar says:

    I regret for saying the above words since Thiruma is the only polititian who is ready to work for people in reality and made lot of sacrifice for the sake of Tamils and Dalits. I read tamilwin.com and puthinam.com regularly. I am becoming more and more distressed everyday on reading about the killings of our people. And everyone knows that the key player behind these killings is not Srilanka but India (Congress).
    Unfortunately Thiruma is forced to join the wrong side. Still its hard to digest.

  56. Prakash says:

    Let them talk anything for the sake of politicians, but let them “do” something for the people.

  57. Ronin says:

    I think Thiruma is sharing a personal friendship with MK. This is not good for politician..A case in example is Vaiko..

    When Vaiko joins a coalition he becomes the leader’s wife. His uttterings that JJ is PM quality is hard to digest even for us..And his “thondar like” standing with folded talk, through out a recent JJ talk does not befit a honorable man, leave alone a leader of a party..Earlier he was seen writing love letters and praising MK to heavens..

    And when he leaves it he becomes their divorced wife. He cries, grumbles and complains like a rejected lover..For god’s sake, you are in politics for a stand, not to love or hate a politician..

    If you too close or too far from another politician, your principles go for a toss..I hope Thiruma put his stand ahead of his relationships..

  58. Prakash says:

    First time, I am hoping for “THE GOD” to intervene to save Tamils in SriLanka & India – lost all hopes on homosapiens around the world.

  59. My beloved sisters and brothers, mothers and fathers, grandmothers and grandfathers of Tamil Nadu,

    Come on, there is still plenty of time, the heat has subsided completely, if you haven’t voted yet, go out there and cast your vote!

    Please watch this video – the shocking truth about SinHELLa Lanka’s CONCENTRATION CAMPS exposed by British Channel 4 reporters who were arrested, threatened and then thrown out of SinHELLa lanka for daring to expose the truth – the truth that the sewer creature N.Ram of the toilet paper The Hindu will always lie about:

    This is your golden opportunity to ANNIHILATE the Congress bastards who are helping the Rajapaksa loafers commit genocide and heinous crimes against humanity and thrash the DMK traitors! I repeat PLEASE ENSURE that the Italian National Congress filth beings like Chidambaram, Mani Shankar Aiyar, Elangovan, Vasan, Narayanaswamy and all Congress scum creatures LOSE THEIR DEPOSITS and the DMK are thrashed severely for betraying you! There is only 1.5 hours left to do this! PLEASE GO OUT THERE AND CAST YOUR VOTE FOR MDMK, PMK, AIADMK, CPI. ANNIHILATE THE FILTH BEINGS OF THE CONGRESS AND THRASH THE DMK!
    THIS IS YOUR DUTY! PLEASE DO NOT FAIL IN YOUR DUTY AS TAMILS, INDIANS AND HUMAN BEINGS! ANNIHILATE THE CONGRESS BASTARDS, PLEASE!

    THE WHOLE WORLD IN INVOLVED IN THE GENOCIDE AGAINST TAMILS – ONLY THE TAMILS OF TN CAN HELP OUR BLOOD BRETHREN – PLEASE GO OUT THERE AND VOTE – ANNIHILATE THE CONGRESS BASTARDS AND THRASH THE DMK TRAITORS, PLEASE!!!

  60. Ronin says:

    As expected Thiruma is riding home comfortably..His lead is 20000 so far.

  61. Prakash says:

    We kept the promise, lets see whether he keeps.

  62. infinite3 says:

    Excellent case study, I admired about your impression on existing politics, your opinion will become true definitely My Political Guru “Thiruma” will use his participation/responsibility as well in Parliament.
    Everyone can understand that always our political steps will be Right and Faith, people can understand this by Thiruma’s maiden address in the Indian Parliament (8th June visit http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29564).

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